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DISCUSSION => Engine + Driveline => Topic started by: PartsCar on April 16, 2008, 09:21:21 AM

Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: PartsCar on April 16, 2008, 09:21:21 AM
So, i have a noisy motor at idle, especially before the car reaches proper operating temp.

I hear rattling similar to what I had when I installed a lightweight flywheel and M5 clutch on my e36 M3.

it only really rattles when the car is at idle with my foot off the clutch. the sound is eliminated when i press the clutch in.

what part do i need to replace? or can i get away with it now until i get rid of this damn glasspack custom jive exhaust that is held by one hanger...

thanks.
Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: gearheadE30 on April 16, 2008, 03:04:03 PM
Sounds like a bad throwout bearing to me. Look it up on pelicanparts.com. Not sure how difficult it is to install.
Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: txleadfoot on April 16, 2008, 03:13:24 PM
Yep, probably going to fail soon.  You'll have to drop the exhaust, driveshaft, and transmission to access it.  While you're in there, check the existing clutch disc & pressure plate, pilot bearing, and seals on both ends of the input shaft.
Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: vonkamp on April 16, 2008, 05:26:24 PM
I have the same problem. Pelican sells centerforce clutch kits. How do I tell whether I have a "dual mass flywheel" or not?
Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: DZick on April 16, 2008, 09:45:21 PM
All M42s do
Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: beegeezy on April 16, 2008, 10:53:08 PM
Quote from: DZick;47271
All M42s do


Hmm, I vaguely remember that some did come with a single mass flywheel.
Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: Boyracer on April 17, 2008, 04:44:33 AM
Quote from: DZick;47271
All M42s do


Not true.

I bought E36 m42 bottom end sometime ago and it had single mass flywheel.
Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: colin86325 on April 17, 2008, 09:42:02 PM
I bought an M42 single-mass flywheel a while back and bought the matching clutch kit, too.  It's not common in the USA.  Damn thing still weighs about 20lbs though.
Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: Ruger on April 27, 2008, 01:29:39 AM
Quote from: PartsCar;47175
So, i have a noisy motor at idle, especially before the car reaches proper operating temp.

I hear rattling similar to what I had when I installed a lightweight flywheel and M5 clutch on my e36 M3.

it only really rattles when the car is at idle with my foot off the clutch. the sound is eliminated when i press the clutch in.

what part do i need to replace? or can i get away with it now until i get rid of this damn glasspack custom jive exhaust that is held by one hanger...

thanks.

I have exactly the same noise as you with my ebay lightweight flywheel/e36 m3 clutch combo and its been like that from the start. The throw out bearing was replaced though so i dunno its a bit embaressing waiting at the lights but i live with it.

That coupled with noisy timing chain people think my car is just gonna fall apart on the spot.
Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: colin86325 on April 27, 2008, 02:54:43 PM
I don't know about the Getrag 240s, but the Getrag 260s that came w/ the M20-engined E30s are notorious for having noisy layshaft bearings.  The sound goes away when you depress the clutch pedal.  If it is the layshaft, typically you have nothing to worry about.
Title: Flywheel Chatter?
Post by: PartsCar on April 27, 2008, 06:47:52 PM
Quote from: colin86325;48016
I don't know about the Getrag 240s, but the Getrag 260s that came w/ the M20-engined E30s are notorious for having noisy layshaft bearings.  The sound goes away when you depress the clutch pedal.  If it is the layshaft, typically you have nothing to worry about.


Yeah, i was reading some threads about that on e30tech when this place was OC. I'm thinking of doing a Trans and diff fluid change with some Red line or Royal Purple.

Quote from: Ruger;47993
I have exactly the same noise as you with my ebay lightweight flywheel/e36 m3 clutch combo and its been like that from the start. The throw out bearing was replaced though so i dunno its a bit embaressing waiting at the lights but i live with it.

That coupled with noisy timing chain people think my car is just gonna fall apart on the spot.



Yeah, my car didnt sound like that from the beginning. after about 30k, it started to chatter. at first it was only with the ac on. You should have heard the  car when i still had it. Shrick Cams, AA track pipe, Stromung, and a stuck Clutch fan made the car sound like a beast.