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DISCUSSION => General Topics => Topic started by: M42boy on May 03, 2006, 01:16:08 PM
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Hey, I am shopping for new tires for my little beast. I just bought a set of lightweight Kosei K1's in 15x7, and need some good rubber to put on it.
I'm looking for sticky (good wet/dry grip), stiffer sidewalls, communicative (makes a lot of noise before it lets go), and not too expensive. :rolleyes:
I've been reccomended the Falken Azzinis, but they are on backorder in the 205/50 size (which is what I plan to run).
I have been highly reccomended the Toyo T1-R by the guy at the tire place, who's owned a few E30's, but I haven't heard of these before.
Anyone have any experience with this particular tire? What other tires should I be looking at in the sub-$100 level with good wet/dry grip for street/track use?
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http://www.edgeracing.com
http://www.vulcantire.com
Falken RT 615
Hankook RS 212
Those are my nominees for the said duty
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Falken RT 615
Hankook RS 212
Those are my nominees for the said duty
Funny, but I was initially looking at some of the new Hankook tires before I tried looking for the Falkens.
Both of these look like Summer only R-comound dry sticky tires. Not something for a daily driver use. Is this correct?
Anything you can reccomend that would be a good dual-purpose tire. Good on the street, decent at the track. Know what I mean? :cool:
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These are not r-comp tires. I daily drive on my Azenis and used them at Lil Taladega, the day we were at Road ATL, that's what I had on and I have used them at 2 auto-x's so far.
Hrm, hard to go into that territory as there's the infamous compromise which causes the scale to tip in either direction.
I have Ziex 512 that fit that description if you seek pure DD mileage in unision with at least a tad bit performance. At the last auto-x I wasn't too happy with them when I sought to shave 2 secs. It could've been more on the driver's error though :p
I'd say that or any tire with less than 340 treadwear I guess? Depending on your suspension options, zero out toe infront and keep stock camber settings if they are adjustable in front. As for the rear, same deal if you can manage to dial some toe out and then set it when you get to the track.
Edit: I just noticed you said you want a noisy tire that makes a lot of noise before it lets go. In my limited experience, driving by feel and not sound is the best approach and typically, the crappier tires make more noise. I classify "communication" in line with transitional and controlled loss of grip.
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These are not r-comp tires. I daily drive on my Azenis and used them at Lil Taladega, the day we were at Road ATL, that's what I had on and I have used them at 2 auto-x's so far.
Edit: I just noticed you said you want a noisy tire that makes a lot of noise before it lets go. In my limited experience, driving by feel and not sound is the best approach and typically, the crappier tires make more noise. I classify "communication" in line with transitional and controlled loss of grip.
Okay, didn't realize these could be used as a daily driver tire. I'm not really concerned about tire wear or tire life. Wet and dry grip are most important.
You are right on with what I'm looking for in a tire. I guess "communicative" is the best word I can think of. Exactly... I want something that doesn't just "let go", but is very controlled at it's limits and breaks loose more gradually, allowing a novice driver like myself plenty of time to react. :cool:
Those Hancoocks are pretty cheap at $74 a tire!! Do you have experience with them? Thanks for the detailed information.
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put some michelins on it. for great wet/dry get the michelin exalto a/s. they run about $80 to $100 for your size. well worth the extra $$$. its what im running now, very quite and grip like a son of a b****. just my 2 cents.
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My dad's 318is has the falken ziex 512, great all-season tire, awesome in the rain! Side walls arn't super stiff though.
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I run Yokohoma Avid H4's, they are a good tire, decent in the snow, LOVE the rain, as for track....I dont know, I have never tracked it, I do know they have a semi-stiff sidewall, I've also put Kuhmo Ecsta's on an e30 before ( a guy nearby that runs the track and such) he said they were a good tire for their price (around 50-60 for either of them)...just my .02.
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Watch Tirerack like a hawk! Kumho Ecsta 711's are discontinued and should go on close out pretty soon. As is, they are dirt cheap! I just got a set for my Kopis, 215/40-17 for 54 bucks each!
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Yea, I get my tires wholesale through my uncle (been working for Goodyear for ~25 years) so I got my Yoko's MAD cheap (25 bucks a piece)
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Yea, I get my tires wholesale through my uncle (been working for Goodyear for ~25 years) so I got my Yoko's MAD cheap (25 bucks a piece)
Hey hey! I worked for goodyear for about three and a half years! Got numberous sets of tires; F1 GSD3's, Eagle HP's, and Eagle RS-A's. Not to mention FREEEEEEE tires [used of course]
The Eagle HP's and Eagle RS-A's both cost me $15 per tire. The GSD3's however, did not.
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I'm running 20/50/15 Azenis 215 (the old version) right now and I LOVE them. They arent nearly as bad in the rain as some make them out to be.
They are also just as wide as my old Falken zeix 225/50/15