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DISCUSSION => Swaps, Turbos, Buildups => Topic started by: ispierrot on September 05, 2007, 02:03:33 PM

Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on September 05, 2007, 02:03:33 PM: Hello with you :)

As of other here I worked my M42 I put photographs to you because I speak your language very badly

The cylinder head I increased the diameter of 1 Misters.

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The valves supertech 6 mm for S42, the Dbilas springs the volumetric report/ratio 10,7

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Valve lifters VW 16v made BILDON

(http:// http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/3231/prparationmoteurm422l45gb8.th.jpg ) (http:// http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l45gb8.jpg)

Camshafts Dbilas and chock

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The pistons Swiss manufacture NUSSBAUMER them rods made in australia

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Crankshaft HARTGE 91 mm

(http:// http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9647/prparationmoteurm422l29sy5.th.jpg ) (http:// http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l29sy5.jpg)

For the oil radiator

(http:// http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/6039/prparationmoteurm422l42xo9.th.jpg ) [/URL

The big trottle m3 3,2

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The engine

(http:// http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7900/preparationmoteur005jo4.th.jpg ) (http:// http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=preparationmoteur005jo4.jpg) (http:// http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/1711/prparationmoteurm42616nu3.th.jpg ) (http:// http://img511.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm42616nu3.jpg)

I have just finished this engine and I will pose it in the car this winter.

So long
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: FL318is on September 05, 2007, 02:05:16 PM: Welcome to the club. Great pictures and nice work!
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: nobrakese36 on September 05, 2007, 09:48:57 PM: Nice, more pics of oil housing please!
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: tjts1 on September 05, 2007, 10:13:14 PM: Good stuff! Do you have specs for your final goal? Displacement, compression ratio, peak rpm etc...?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ose30 on September 06, 2007, 02:09:52 AM: Sali !

Tell more about that Swiss piston manufacturer NUSSBAUMER.

Viele Grüsse,

Olli
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: Boyracer on September 06, 2007, 03:26:51 AM: Bestest thread evar! ITB adapter photos were especially useful :)
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on September 06, 2007, 05:23:46 AM: Hello

Swiss piston to manufacture NUSSBAUMER, it receives the pistons from MAHLE then rebuilds them.

For the engine I will like 180/200 HP, rpm maximum 7500, compression ratio 10,7

(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/4397/preparationmoteur007ce2.th.jpg) (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=preparationmoteur007ce2.jpg)(http://img398.imageshack.us/img398/1959/preparationmoteur006gh4.th.jpg) (http://img398.imageshack.us/my.php?image=preparationmoteur006gh4.jpg)(http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/3531/preparationmoteur005sf1.th.jpg) (http://img389.imageshack.us/my.php?image=preparationmoteur005sf1.jpg)
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ose30 on September 06, 2007, 06:30:48 AM: Pierre,

do you know does Nussbaumer have a possibility to add Ferrostan coatings to their pistons? I ask this, because i have another project (a 3.0 liter Porsche 944 Turbo) going on, and it's Alusil engine block needs to have Ferrostan coated pistons. I have a supplier in Germany, but i would like to know what other possibilities there might be. Where in Switzerland Nussbaumer is located?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on September 06, 2007, 07:20:58 AM: OSE30
For Ferrostant I do not know, but I can get information if you want, it work in the Jura with delemont.

Nusbaumer SA
mécanique de précision
rue St-Maurice 7G
2800 Delémont
Téléphone * 032 422 05 30Fax* 032 422 50 84
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ose30 on September 06, 2007, 10:38:31 AM: Pierre,

i found their website http://www.nusa.ch

i made an inquiry concerning the Ferrostan coated pistons. My collage french is just quite rusty, so i did it in english instead. don't know is there anybody who understands english, so it would be nice if you can help.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on September 06, 2007, 01:28:21 PM: OSE30

If you need not problem.

Yes. http://www.nusa.ch
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: silverblades181 on September 06, 2007, 07:49:56 PM: Quote from: ose30;33215
Pierre,

i found their website http://www.nusa.ch

i made an inquiry concerning the Ferrostan coated pistons. My collage french is just quite rusty, so i did it in english instead. don't know is there anybody who understands english, so it would be nice if you can help.

I can translate anything you want to french...it is my native tongue.

Pierre, tu parles le francais? Tres beau moteur et une belle liste de modifications. Est-ce que les pieces DBilas sont cheres en Suisse?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ose30 on September 07, 2007, 01:08:34 AM: Thanks for the help. I suppose Piston company is quite surprised if Pierre asked them about the Ferrostan coated pistons, because i asked them and i also mentioned that manufacturer also to a friend of mine who lives in Zürich, Switzerland. My friend builds a similar Porsche engine and he also asked those pistons... So there might be three similar questions at the same time. i suppose they do not get inquiries concerning 104mm Ferrostan coated Porsche pistons every day ;) But i suppose more inquiries the better chances are to have those pistons manufactured :)
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on September 07, 2007, 01:33:50 AM: Salut silverblade.

Je suis heureux de pouvoir communiquer français, je pense que tu viens de l'exagone.

Les pièces Dbilas sont chère car la Suisse n'est pas dans l'Europe alors il faut payer les taxes de douane.

Au plaisir et merci si jamais j'ai de la peine pour les traductions.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: silverblades181 on September 07, 2007, 06:33:25 PM: L'Hexagone? Je viens du Quebec, au Canada. J'ai une question a propos des ITBs. Qu'est-ce que tu utilise comme engine managment? As tu encore le AFM ou bien tu utilise un MAF?

For the french impaired, I'm asking him what engine managment he's using for the ITBs. I translate because I find it annoying when people chat in a language I can't understand and there could be some interesting information shared.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ose30 on September 08, 2007, 01:37:52 AM: Hyvin ajateltu. Valtakieliä on helppo tulkita erilaisten internetistä löytyvien käännösohjelmien avulla. Koitappa löytää käännösohjelma joka osaa Suomea...

It's easy to translate most of the "big" lanquages with babelfish etc. Try to locate a translation program which can undestand Finnish or some other "small" lanquage.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on September 08, 2007, 03:45:16 AM: For l'instant I not put n'ai the engine in the car and I seek a electronic management simple to employ.

True I must me make the work to write in English.

Thank you for Babel fisch.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: Royalratch on September 13, 2007, 05:05:02 AM: That is a GREAT engine rebuild. No turbos or charging?

So you will get 180-200BHP just from individual throttles, compression and better internals?

Wow!

Well done - more pictures please!
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on September 13, 2007, 05:55:04 AM: Hello,

I hope 180/200 HP........

Which photograph wants you?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: nuvolarossa on September 13, 2007, 07:59:11 AM: Bonjour ispierrot... moi, je ne parle trés bien le Françoise...

What airbox you will fit?

merci ;)
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on September 13, 2007, 01:40:41 PM: Yes good french...

I'm looking for a solution.

Ciao Nuvolarossa.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: Royalratch on September 20, 2007, 03:02:18 PM: Quote from: ispierrot;33627
Hello,

I hope 180/200 HP........

Which photograph wants you?

Just more photos of the project and stuff.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: D. Clay on September 20, 2007, 05:01:12 PM: Bonjour et bienvenue au M42Club. Moteur très intéressant. Les regards de travail de culasse particulièrement bons. Nous sommes tous curieux au sujet du morceau de filtre et de refroidisseur d'huile. Pourriez vous dire plus à son sujet. Quels passages sont employés. Je ne parle pas français du tout - j'ai juste dactylographié ceci dans un programme de traduction.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: silverblades181 on September 20, 2007, 08:30:24 PM: Quote from: D. Clay;34107
Bonjour et bienvenue au M42Club. Moteur très intéressant. Les regards de travail de culasse particulièrement bons. Nous sommes tous curieux au sujet du morceau de filtre et de refroidisseur d'huile. Pourriez vous dire plus à son sujet. Quels passages sont employés. Je ne parle pas français du tout - j'ai juste dactylographié ceci dans un programme de traduction.

That's a pretty good program you have there..:eek:
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: kowalski on September 20, 2007, 11:08:49 PM: what are the rods from, are they off ebay?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on September 21, 2007, 03:09:22 PM: Yes, I bought them on Ebay.

SHAFT rods

http://cgi.ebay.fr/H-Beam-Bielles-BMW-M42-44-Z3-E30-E36-Turbo_W0QQitemZ280053612749QQihZ018QQcategoryZ117300QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on September 21, 2007, 04:05:04 PM: ROYALRATCH
I put some photographs to you.
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/1128/prparationmoteurm422l31ur0.th.jpg) (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l31ur0.jpg)
Valves origine 58 gr. and supertech 6mm. 45 gr.
(http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6830/prparationmoteurm422l36yx3.th.jpg) (http://img502.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l36yx3.jpg)(http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6284/prparationmoteurm422l37pj2.th.jpg) (http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l37pj2.jpg)(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/4734/prparationmoteurm42536pp6.th.jpg) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm42536pp6.jpg)

(http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8397/prparationmoteurm42621bk8.th.jpg) (http://img291.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm42621bk8.jpg)

D.CLAY
which is your program for the translation?
For oil I bought this part in a French preparer.I will give other photographs.

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http://www.delagesport.com/index2.html
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: Royalratch on October 02, 2007, 08:35:59 AM: What's the latest on this project then dude?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on October 02, 2007, 04:00:36 PM: The last one transformation was big trottle.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: cenotaph on October 03, 2007, 02:11:47 PM: very nice

is building up an engine very complicated? will you need new fuel mappings?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on October 04, 2007, 03:19:29 PM: Tanks.

Just the M44 distribution of fuel on the injectors M3.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: Royalratch on October 13, 2007, 03:29:03 PM: How did you solve the engine temperature sensor problem?
I have an M44 in my E30 and the M44 has only 1 sensor but the E30 requires 2.

Maybe you're not using your engine in an E30 but any ideas?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on October 13, 2007, 03:39:17 PM: I have an M42 engine and a car E30

It fuel distribution to the M44
(http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/7061/preparationmoteurmy8.th.jpg) (http://img455.imageshack.us/my.php?image=preparationmoteurmy8.jpg)
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: Royalratch on October 19, 2007, 08:22:19 AM: Hello ispierrot.

Can you explain that a little more?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on October 19, 2007, 04:06:41 PM: Hello.

The engine is still in my workshop, I seek an electronic management simple to understand and use.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: EN318isPDX on October 19, 2007, 04:23:53 PM: Quote from: ispierrot;36109
Hello.

The engine is still in my workshop, I seek an electronic management simple to understand and use.

Megasquirt is your friend!

http://www.megasquirt.info/
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: Royalratch on November 14, 2007, 07:01:32 AM: So how is this project going?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on November 17, 2007, 04:07:30 PM: At the moment I try to find an air box and concluded a few things, before mounting in the car.
Recently I went on a tour with a small engine, 1796cc. 151 ps.
(http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4050/ban318isevo1gw4.th.jpg) (http://img86.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ban318isevo1gw4.jpg)
See you soon.

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=5rdOmFsQRNE

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=rqEKXn3nEzc

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=_hyM7SMDQGc

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=hRowFBcgdi0
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on November 17, 2007, 04:16:53 PM: The engine of 151 PS is presented here.

Early preparation engine M 42.

Here I present to you a little preparation I made a little over a year, I am an amateur like most of you, so there is no scientific computing, but rather a logical staff "In addition to reading, which deals with the preparation of the engines a little patience and passion.
Budget around 2500 to 3000 euros

The yoke
I dig little 1 mm. On the radius and then sanding depending on the desired finish and guides nine, the report volumetric is 10.5.

(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/4496/prparationmoteurm422l46yt7.th.jpg) (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l46yt7.jpg)

Adjustment of inlet pipes
With a red lip on the paper then pipe on the cylinder head coach on greenhouse is removed and the path is made that there is no longer widening.

(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/5120/prparationmoteurm422l49bo0.th.jpg) (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l49bo0.jpg)(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3808/prparationmoteurm422l49yb7.th.jpg) (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l49yb7.jpg)

Piping
Even work on the cylinder head

(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/3637/prparationmoteurm422l47hd4.th.jpg) (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l47hd4.jpg)

The valve lifters, springs and distribution
Valves origins 7 mm. New, springs DBILAS doubles and push origins, distribution is new,

Camshafts
262 degrees at DBILAS, pulleys are adjustable home

The rods
New original 140 mm. Then lean polished

(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/741/prparationmoteurm422l40sx3.th.jpg) (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l40sx3.jpg)(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7777/prparationmoteurm422l43vt0.th.jpg) (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l43vt0.jpg)

Balanced weighs on the foot of the rod all the same weight and then head all the same weight and complete all the same weight.

(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/340/prparationmoteurm422l43ur5.th.jpg) (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l43ur5.jpg)(http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7686/prparationmoteurm422l43ra8.th.jpg) (http://img85.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l43ra8.jpg)(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/6113/prparationmoteurm422l43fx5.th.jpg) (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l43fx5.jpg)

Pistons
Originally 84 mm new segments

Engine block
The cylinder is déglacé to stone.

The crankshaft
Poli and balanced, polishing my taking three months during my lunch break, not all good either breaks

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The shuttle engine
325 i balanced, which has replaced the 318 has the advantage right because it is lighter and that the clutch of origin 325i is stronger

(http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/7356/volantmoteur140wr6.th.jpg) (http://img520.imageshack.us/my.php?image=volantmoteur140wr6.jpg)

Injection
Originally + injecteur 233cc.

Electronics
Originally, chip comes from Germany I do not recall most of what Blocker?

This engine running for one year without any problems with a maximum 7500t/min, I have not spent on the bench but it should come it is well supported by a box M3 and a sleplimited 4 / 10

My English just google translation, sorry.
See you soon.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: Vladi on November 17, 2007, 05:03:57 PM: How did you polish the intake? :)
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on November 17, 2007, 05:27:01 PM: With DREMEL and mixture to polish for metal or aluminum
and(http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/1466/prparationmoteurm422l40sf8.th.jpg) (http://img50.imageshack.us/my.php?image=prparationmoteurm422l40sf8.jpg)
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: suvi123 on November 19, 2007, 12:49:29 PM: Why didn't you polish rods everywhere? only "sides" and from the "top"?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: ispierrot on November 19, 2007, 04:25:36 PM: The Polish I rods
1) for the strength, so the polish or there is likely to break.
2) to ease, so the piston side is more important.
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: Royalratch on February 15, 2008, 01:20:06 PM: Any more news?
Title: M42 swiss
Post by: hoevesruperd on February 15, 2008, 01:48:01 PM: je suis jaloux! vraiment beau projet et j aime particulierement tes videos sur le circuit de Bresse! je vois que tu clanches ton 1.8 a fond
donnes nous des nouvelles!