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DISCUSSION => Swaps, Turbos, Buildups => Topic started by: e9nine on April 02, 2006, 11:41:55 PM

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: e9nine on April 02, 2006, 11:41:55 PM

Saw this earlier on today from BFc Here's a link to the short thread in case the image links don't work.
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=510002

(http://virtualhorizon.net/gallery/albums/pictures/cars/318/engine.jpg)

(http://virtualhorizon.net/gallery/albums/pictures/cars/318/engine2.jpg)

Discuss :D

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: asubimmer on April 03, 2006, 12:26:22 AM

IMHO  turbo>s/c

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: 1991318is on April 03, 2006, 12:46:46 AM

I would so love to have that, imho, I like s/c better. Probably cuz I'm a hotrodder and it's more common to bolt s/c's to a big block than to turbo it.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: shellback on April 03, 2006, 06:36:14 AM

Is that a DASC?
Chris

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: tim_s on April 03, 2006, 11:43:07 AM

very cool. is that an eaton m62? lets try to get him on here to give us some info and figures! with RHD m42s having steering and exhaust manifold running on the same side, S/C is a tidier option for RHD cars. that looks to be a really nice tidy installation too, very nice!

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: Febi Guibo on April 03, 2006, 11:47:17 AM

somebody get his butt over here... release the hounds!

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: dude8383 on April 03, 2006, 12:43:56 PM

werd that looks awesome! that belt is my only concern...it looks SOOO thin. i suppose that could rip if he really punched it?

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: sheepdog on April 03, 2006, 02:40:25 PM

Quote from: asubimmer

IMHO  turbo>s/c

It depends more on your purpose I think.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: StreetSpec_iS on April 03, 2006, 09:19:54 PM

very clean!

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: Shocker on April 03, 2006, 09:59:22 PM

Hey thats my car!
 
I can't remeber if its a M62 i bought the setup from KOProformance. the tech thats no longer working there said it would work on my car but the intake pipe hit on the brake booster so i d\had to make my own.  As for the belt it works fine, but the olny problem i had is it started to slip after a while so i had to get a smaller one.

:D

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: 2002maniac on April 04, 2006, 11:47:40 AM

Quote from: shellback

Is that a DASC?
Chris

custom.  

Looks primitive with the VAM, v-belt, and FMU.  But as long as it works, who cares!

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: Febi Guibo on April 04, 2006, 01:50:13 PM

Quote from: Shocker

Hey thats my car!

hey, we're ready for the whole story! tell us more!! dyno sheet?? thanks man!!

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: kowalski on April 04, 2006, 04:52:06 PM

yeah i wanna see the dyno, and how come you kept with the maf? i could see you getting a lot more with some simple modifications... but whats your power output right now? and what management system are you using?

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: M42boy on April 10, 2006, 03:33:09 PM

Quote from: Shocker

Hey thats my car!
 
I can't remeber if its a M62 i bought the setup from KOProformance. the tech thats no longer working there said it would work on my car but the intake pipe hit on the brake booster so i d\had to make my own.  As for the belt it works fine, but the olny problem i had is it started to slip after a while so i had to get a smaller one.

:D

Downing-Atlanta makes a bolt-on Eaton blower kit for the M42.  I think it's a more compact unit than this one as I've seen it on a Z3 or something, but not real up close.  I think it's made for the newer E36/Z3 cars, but with minor modifications will work on the E30.  

According to them, it's good for another 50 bhp!

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: dbgrubbs on April 11, 2006, 09:48:13 AM

Grassroots Motorsports has completed an installation of a DASC on an 318is (e30). Should be in next months issue.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: stevohill on April 12, 2006, 08:22:32 PM

Downing atlanta has been something I've been very strongly considering lately, I'd like to go turbo, but to much custom fab, and their s/c kit is basically bolt on.  I'm not looking for redamndiculously big power gains, but a s/c would be way bad ass.  Look at the mini's, those things sound so sick with an upgraded s/c kit, not to mention they're damn quick to.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: jfdublyu on April 12, 2006, 08:58:33 PM

someone try and get that grassroots motorsport article and post it

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Post by: jfdublyu on April 12, 2006, 09:19:26 PM

i did a little digging on the grassroots motorsport s/c and discovered that it's a Downing Atlanta S/C kit for a Z3 made to fit and added 16lbs in weight to the car. sounds good to me so far...

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: shellback on April 12, 2006, 10:02:30 PM

but I called DASC and they said it's only for the E36's....????
don't get it - I guess that's where the custom set up came in...wonder how reliable?

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: stevohill on April 12, 2006, 11:57:55 PM

Well how much actually changed motor wise between the '91 to '92 318iS? I thought they were relatively a similar car, except the body chassis.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: 2002maniac on April 13, 2006, 12:29:27 AM

in '92 the m42 had a different intake manifold, new serpentine system, and a new engine management system.

The DASC will bolt to our engine, downing just has never bothered to make a v-belt drive or software that would allow us to use it.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: stevohill on April 13, 2006, 12:33:42 AM

Quote from: 2002maniac

in '92 the m42 had a different intake manifold, new serpentine system, and a new engine management system.

The DASC will bolt to our engine, downing just has never bothered to make a v-belt drive or software that would allow us to use it.

Any idea what would be needed to make it work, and how difficult? I'm fairly new at complicated engine work, but bolt-on with a little modification is always a good thing.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: dbgrubbs on April 13, 2006, 06:50:12 AM

We'll have to wait for the new issue. It will be several weeks before it comes out. Any yes, DASC is only for the E36 but GRM has adapted it to the E30.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: 2002maniac on April 13, 2006, 11:56:13 AM

Quote from: e9nine

(http://virtualhorizon.net/gallery/albums/pictures/cars/318/engine.jpg)

Well, this guy is using a v-belt on the serpentine pulley which I would not reccomend.  The v-belt will slip very easily.  

I think the best way to do it would be to swap the entire pulley system from the later m42 and use Megasquirt or a piggyback to control fuel issues.  The stock timing curve wouldnt be optimal but I bet it would work.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: GrippyDrifty on April 13, 2006, 01:50:22 PM

http://www.koperformance.com/BMW/turbo_superchargers/ko_performance/1pt8_9_liter_bmw_z3_318_supercharger_kit/ko_performance_e36_e37_1pt8L_1pt9L_bmw_318_bmw_z3_supercharger_kit.htm

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: 2002maniac on April 13, 2006, 05:05:23 PM

I would be wary of KO performance. There is a 20 page thread at 318ti.org about them. (http://318ti.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7436)

(http://www.geocities.com/triumph1518/manilfold.jpg)

(http://www.geocities.com/triumph1518/manilfold1.jpg)

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: Febi Guibo on April 13, 2006, 05:34:49 PM

Quote from: 2002maniac

I would be wary of KO performance.

jeez... you are one serious nitpicker!  :D

I had some elementary school science projects turn out like that manifold (?) ...art majors untie!!!

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: kowalski on April 13, 2006, 05:37:43 PM

hahahahaha if i wasn't in class i would be on the floor laughing, that is horrible. the welds are nasty looking, and that plate... oh man words cannot express the poor fabrication of this... its like a 3 cylinder settup.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: 2002maniac on April 13, 2006, 06:14:29 PM

I seriously think that those are JB-welds...

 LOL

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: Febi Guibo on April 13, 2006, 07:41:57 PM

I'm fighting the urge to change those IMG tags to like... URL tags... those pictures are disturbing... this is a family-oriented show!

My JB welds are definitely better than their JB welds --it's all in the wrist, btw.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: GrippyDrifty on April 14, 2006, 12:51:32 AM

OMG! Are you f'n serious! I could mold something out of clay better than that!! Honestly though, that manifold is unbelievable!! I wonder if it was someone posing to be KO and totally ripped the guy off! Then again, I had never heard of KO 'till today when I read the post.

Title: S/c e30m42 pics (not mine)
Post by: kowalski on April 14, 2006, 03:17:08 AM

im supprised its not made of wood or somthing with that quality of craftsmanship...