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DISCUSSION => General Topics => Topic started by: thebrelon on June 03, 2014, 02:22:23 PM

Title: warsteiner's gold mine post about light weight internals
Post by: thebrelon on June 03, 2014, 02:22:23 PM: could somebody be nice enough to point me to that post where warsteiner gave the weight of each engine components from M42 stock to M42 upgraded with s50 light weight components please?
I searched but can't find it as it wasn't in a dedicated topic...

thanks!
Title: Re: warsteiner's gold mine post about light weight internals
Post by: DesktopDave on June 03, 2014, 03:19:44 PM: Couldn't find that exact thread, but I found a useful post or two by searching for "M3 rods" for posts by Warsteiner:
http://www.m42club.com/forum/index.php?topic=17053.msg120808#msg120808
Title: Re: warsteiner's gold mine post about light weight internals
Post by: Warsteiner on June 03, 2014, 08:09:58 PM: Thanks Dave....

~Ralph
Title: Re: warsteiner's gold mine post about light weight internals
Post by: DesktopDave on June 04, 2014, 03:25:29 PM: Quote from: Warsteiner on June 03, 2014, 08:09:58 PM
Thanks Dave....

~Ralph

Urm...no...the thanks should all go to you for sharing your knowledge!
Title: Re: warsteiner's gold mine post about light weight internals
Post by: thebrelon on June 05, 2014, 03:02:51 PM: thanks for having searched. I'll try again when I have more time.
it's a pity such a post is not a sticky :-[
Title: Re: warsteiner's gold mine post about light weight internals
Post by: colin86325 on June 06, 2014, 01:03:45 PM: Is this it?

http://www.m42club.com/forum/index.php?topic=14199.30
Title: Re: warsteiner's gold mine post about light weight internals
Post by: Warsteiner on June 06, 2014, 05:05:57 PM: That would be it....lol

~Ralph
Title: Re: warsteiner's gold mine post about light weight internals
Post by: thebrelon on June 06, 2014, 08:09:37 PM: ho yeah!!!
thank you!
Title: Re: warsteiner's gold mine post about light weight internals
Post by: Warsteiner on June 06, 2014, 08:51:47 PM: I did the 33mm S50/52 M3 cam trays about 8 years ago because no one had actually done it back then. If you're building a serious motor or not, and you have the funds, then go for it and do the conversion and save a bunch of weight on the top end. You also have the option of doing shim under bucket with solid lifters by using the M3 stuff.

Enjoy everyone....

Cheers,
~Ralph
Title: Re: warsteiner's gold mine post about light weight internals
Post by: Gabs on June 08, 2014, 10:55:19 PM: Quote
Lifter Bucket:
M42/S50 M42 Light M42 Stock
33mm= 44.0gms 35mm= 64.5gms 35mm= 77.09gms
44x16=704gms 64.5x16=1,032gms 77.09x16=1,233gms

Keeper:
M42/S50 M42 Light M42 Stock
1.0gms 1.0gms 2.5gms
1x16=16gms 1x16=16gms 2.5x16=40gms

Retainers:
M42/S50 M42 Light M42 Stock
8.0gms 10.0gms 19.0gms
8x16=128gms 10x16=160gms 19x16=304gms

Springs:
M42/S50 M42 Light M42 Stock
Beehive= 37.0gms Beehive= 45.0gms Dual Spring=62.0gms
37x16=592gms 45x16=720gms 62x16=992gms

Intake Valve: (x8)
M42/S50 M42 Light M42 Stock
33mm= 45.5gms 33mm= 45.5gms 33mm= 58.5gms
45.5x8=364gms 45.5x8=364gms 58.5x8=468gms

Exhaust Valve: (x8)
M42/S50 M42 Light M42 Stock
30.5mm= 46.0gms 30.5mm= 46.0gms 30.5mm= 54gms
46x8=368gms 46x8=368gms 54x8=432gms

Total:
S50 Light M42 Light M42 Stock
2,172 grams 2,660 grams 3,469grams
4.79 lbs 5.86 lbs 7.65 lbs

This is very interesting topic, being that I rebuilt my head last year, I used all lightweight titanium internals were applicable, switched to smaller diameter valves (7mm to 6mm), all in an effort to reduce weight. I'm now wondering how comparable my numbers would be to these, Ill have to go do some digging.