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DISCUSSION => Swaps, Turbos, Buildups => Topic started by: Skorp on August 09, 2013, 08:03:25 PM

Title: Afordable tuning for m42b18 in E36
Post by: Skorp on August 09, 2013, 08:03:25 PM
Hi!

I'm considering to modify my engine slightly in my 318is '93.
Is there any cheap tricks that will raise the power some?

-Cams would be lovely, but i cant afford new ones.. would need to be used..
-Injectors, i've heard about Injectors from Vauxhall Omega 2.5V6 that is supposed to give alittle more fuel, but alot better spray.
-Chip, There is a chip on ebay claiming a 8-12hp gain for 40£, i want to try..
-Exhaust, Is it worth to build a 2.5" system or is the original okay?
-Throttle body, anything bigger thats bolt on?
-Lighten up stuff like flywheel and pulleys, anything cheap for sale?

Budget would be around 400£ or 620$
Cheers, Vegard

Title: Re: Afordable tuning for m42b18 in E36
Post by: thebrelon on August 12, 2013, 05:47:51 AM
for that money the best you can do is a good chip from a known chip tuner ($150) and a shorter diff, best if LSD ($350-500).


if you had more money to spend my comment would have been the same...  ;)
Title: Re: Afordable tuning for m42b18 in E36
Post by: bmwman91 on August 12, 2013, 08:50:10 PM
The only worthwhile mods are a chip and a lighter flywheel at that price range.

- Cams are expensive and you MUST get a custom chip tuned to make any benefit. That tune will add another $1000 of cost.
- Injectors...NO. The stock ones are the only ones that you should be using. The ECU is programmed for those, and putting in other ones is useless. NO GAINS will come from putting in different injectors since the engine gets plenty of fuel with the stock ones (they are good for ~180bHP). Different injectors will lose you power and hurt fuel economy.
- You get what you pay for with chips. Buy a REAL Jim Conforti or MarkD chip, or don't bother. It is ~$250 that is totally worth it.
- Stock exhaust is good. As long as the catalyst is not broken and clogged, you are fine. There are many nice sounding mufflers out there, but you will not get any power from a different muffler. Putting bigger pipes on will also hurt your low- and mid-range torque on a stock engine.
- Do not change or enlarge the throttle body. No gains, only low- and mid-range torque loss. And probably a vacuum leak if you try to enlarge the bore.
- A lighter flywheel IS worth the effort. You can convert to a stock 1989-1991 325i/iS/iC clutch and flywheel at pretty low cost. It MUST be 1989 or newer and be from the M20B25. The swap requires: M20B25 flywheel, M20B25 starter (or just the pinion gear), M20B25 clutch parts (ToB, disc, PP), M20B25 flywheel bolts, the steel ring from your original M42 flywheel (used as spacer between M20 flywheel and crank). The complete M20 clutch/flywheel assembly is ~2kg lighter than the stock M42 assembly, BUT the mass is much closer to the center of rotation (not around the outside) so it makes a BIG difference.

Also, do not bother with intakes. I have a 205bHP 2.1L M42 in my car and it pulls fine with the stock air intake box. I will be installing a bigger M30 air box and MAF sensor, but I will also be going to a dyno for custom tuning and this engine actually pulls enough air to need a bigger air filter. A stock engine does not need this.

The hardest thing for new, enthusiastic owners of this car is accepting that BMW already tuned the stock M42 engine 95% of the way to its maximum potential (EXCEPT for the ECU chip, they purposely de-tuned it so that it would be much slower than the 325i because they wanted to sell that more expensive model). These cars cost more in 1991 than many new cars cost today! People pay so much for a BMW because they want a car that already has amazing engineering done on it. If installing cheap junk yard parts could easily improve these cars...that would be quite sad. The stock engine makes reasonable power, gets good fuel economy and has a well balanced power curve. To really make a lot more power with this engine, you need to start changing the bore size, stroke length, compression, cams, head ports and valve sizes. Basically, you need to build it into a completely different engine if you want a more powerful one that is as well balanced as the original. It is very expensive!
Title: Re: Afordable tuning for m42b18 in E36
Post by: Slowered318 on August 13, 2013, 08:11:32 AM
I mostly agree with the above post by bmwman91.

A good chip can help along with considerable engine maintenance is your first step. Getting the compression, injection, and ignition to factory specification will usually improve performance. Aside from forced induction, most of the engine modifications you will find on this site are for piece of mind, driveability or entertainment, and sometimes simplified maintenance.

I would like to add that the Valeo single mass conversion kit can be purchased for around $550 and can be considerably lightened if you use the right techniques.

It's good to make a list desired modifications so when you have to tackle that part of the car/engine you can do it right the first time.
Title: Re: Afordable tuning for m42b18 in E36
Post by: Skorp on August 14, 2013, 09:31:31 PM
How is the response and power delivery in the engine when it gets a lighter flywheel? Is it worth to find the lightest option available, or will it be a hassle to keep it from stalling?

I will order a chip as soon as possible.

I would like to get some LSD diff in the car, but the ratio is perfect for the types of autox tracks we have here.. So i will either weld it, or leave it open.
Have no real problems with loosing the traction on new tyres (on my old tyres it was alot more tail happy)
I have small wheels aswell, so its abit geared down there.  195/45 16"
Title: Re: Afordable tuning for m42b18 in E36
Post by: bmwman91 on August 15, 2013, 01:45:29 AM
I do not recommend using a flywheel that weighs less than 12lbs for street use. Also, anything lighter than about 16lbs is going to lead to a LOT of transmission rattle at idle. And when engine braking in most gears. The car sounds like it is going to rattle itself to pieces with the 11lb flywheel I have in it lol.
Title: Re: Afordable tuning for m42b18 in E36
Post by: Skorp on August 15, 2013, 06:35:41 PM
I have a spare M30b20 engine and trans laying around..
Do i have to use a 2.5 flywheel and clutch? Anything i can pick from this engine?

Did some maintainance on the engine today.. Got a new chain tensioner, so less sound.. New bosch sparkplugs, the best oil Mobil1 have, new oil filter and a open air filter just for sounds(and no shop had my original filter in stock) . Lots of intake nois now, and it pulls alot better. NOT because of the air filter, the plugs and oil made the difference! They where in a bad shape.