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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 03, 2011, 12:16:20 PM
Well the time has finally come. I have been up and down with the subject. I have been through head gaskets and wondered if i should ever do it. The rear end has ripped out on me and i had to weld it back into place. The head has cracked and a new one had to be put on......the list goes on as to why i should not do this.

bare with the fuzzy pictures, i later got a better camera so half way through they get clear.


But that is not the fun route.  Yesterday i drove 4 hours to get the deal of a lifetime, on a Lysholm 1.2 Litre Twin Screw Supercharger.   

Lets just say this thing is amazing. It even has the bypass valve built into the intake housing on the end of the compressor. It also has a (5th) injector which is supposed to be used for extra fuel, powered by a piggy back system.  I am pretty certain it will be the best spot ever for Methanol injection!!!.

Anyways, this is by no means going to be a quick build. Everything you see in this thread will be A full custom Job by me.  The plan is to get the supercharger mounted, and obviously all of the plumbing figured out. A custom A2w intake manifold will be made, with the a2w core built inside of the plenum.

I will try to take as many pictures as i can with the progress. Earlier this year i drove up there to Canada and bought a spare block so i can do the mock up. That along with the old cracked head i have, i can make a pretty good mock up of the design on my workbench.

So to start , over the next week the LSD differential will be going in along with the solid diff mounts and 2 brand new axles.  Later when i feel like it, the very very expensive M series clutch and transmission and drive shaft will be going in to complete the drive train. Also a Light weight flywheel.  All of this crap has been here just sitting, waiting to be installed since last winter.  Like i said, i have been up and down about whether this project is going to happen.

For those that want to know, my goals are going to be approximately 250Whp  at probably 12-15 PSI.  These engines have proven to handle over 300whp all day with no problems. the only problem at 300whp that you encounter is the HG. But i have already taken car of that with a new gasket and ARP head studs. So 250whp is a good place to stay at.  last time the car hit the Dyno it put down about 117whp and 119 torque.  So my goal is to double the horsepower. Oh and for those who saw my teaser thread a year ago, I shit canned the idea of using the ITBS.  This Blowers manifold design eliminated my need to do that. Stay tuned guys.

Here is the Compressor i drove for about 8 hours in the pouring rain, through traffic and ferries yesterday.  Well worth the trip If i told you what i paid for it, you would puke considering how expensive twin screw compressors are!!  Enjoy my slow build folks.

Sorry for the crappy picture

My Lysholm 1.5 Litre Twin Screw Compressor.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/twinscrew.jpg)

The mock up Block, without the head to design the setup on

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/m42.jpg)
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 03, 2011, 12:16:51 PM
So If you are wondering what i will be doing for tuning, I will tell you.

I will be using an Emulator. This emulator has a ribbon wire running to the ecu. This wire plugs in place of the ecu's stock tuning chip.   This emulator gives me real time tuning and data.  I can control the entire ECU using this system as if it were a full standalone fuel management system. I can control spark timing, injectors etc....  I can even throw injectors in, that are as large as i want. Just a little, simple math calculations and it is running them with no problem.  I can also convert to a map sensor or a MAF sensor  instead of using my flipper door AFM.  All it would require is some math and some conversion data to be applied.

So with that said, i will more than likely tune the car myself.  This can be done on the fly with a laptop, just like any other management system.

Best part about this system is it costs $174 USD to turn my ecu into a programmable fuel management system  :-)

It will look like this.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/images2.jpg)

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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 03, 2011, 12:17:24 PM
Lots of time today to research some stuff and think of designs.  It is all coming together!!  (at least in my head)
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 03, 2011, 12:18:00 PM
I was gone for 5 days, out on the coast of Washington, enjoying myself for our holiday weekend.  Wednesday i had a little time to poke around on the car after work and here is what i got done.

I finally decided to put the LSD differential in the car that has been sitting in my garage for over a year now. Also put 2 new axles in as well.  OMG!! why did i not do this a year ago when i bought it! Huge difference. The whole car has been transformed into an even better car. about 10 different noises that i was always hearing from the rear-end are now gone. The old diff was pretty well worn out and loose.

I went with the Royal Purple 75W140 gear lube. This has the LSD additive already added to the fluid for extended performance and life of clutched LSD setups. I could not be hap[pier with how this turned out. Now i will for sure be able to apply all of the power i make down to the ground. No more 1 tire smoke shows for me. It's going to be all or nothing.


Rocking the new steelies and snow tires for the season.  Looks pretty stealth.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/1123011511-1.jpg)

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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 03, 2011, 12:18:30 PM
$20 USD each!  holy crap! and  i had to buy 2 of course because it required .2 litres more. Such is life

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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 03, 2011, 12:19:00 PM
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Here it is all finished

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/1123011752-1.jpg)
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 03, 2011, 12:19:35 PM
Thanksgiving day i went out to the garage for a while and setup the mock-up engine. This was all for my visual learning of what i am going to have to deal with. I think i am going to  have to buy a smaller snout for the supercharger.

A while back i had a plate made to move the alternator to the opposite side of the engine in the place of where the AC compressor used to be. Doing this would completely free the entire intake side of the engine. Unfortunately the steering rack is slightly in the way so if it can be done i will have to redo the adapter plate and try again.  I do not think that i need to move it. This was just going to give me more room to play with when mounting the supercharger.  We will see on that item in the end.

Here are some better pictures of the compressor and it next to the engine.  The manifold and intake runner are from a vehicle specific kit which will not be used in my setup. I will more than likely be cutting the flanges off for the custom fabrication of my manifold Air box.

Sorry that all of my pictures suck in quality. My phones camera really sucks these days. I need to get a shop camera.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/1124011003-1.jpg)

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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 03, 2011, 12:20:09 PM
My favorite part is that the oval shape of the supercharger inlet/intake is perfect for mounting up to the stock M42 oval shaped throttle body. you cannot beat that.


(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/1124011006a-1.jpg)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/1124011010.jpg)


Should I go twin charger?  This is an Audi A4 turbocharger i have laying around :-)


(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/1124011027-1.jpg)



Look closely at the next picture. at the end of the intake flange for the supercharger, there is whats called a 5th injector. this was used in the kit as a source for extra fuel. This was part of the kits fuel management for tuning for Boost.  Well I know have an already installed methanol injector :-D

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/1124011023.jpg)
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 03, 2011, 12:20:39 PM
Just made a parts order.

Ordered an electric fan and shroud and coolant temp sensor.

Doing this will allow me to get rid of the big bulky fan shroud on the radiator and remove the manual clutched fan connected to the engine. All i have to do is put the new fan on the radiator between the engine and the radiator and remove the restrictive electric fan on the front side of the ac condenser.  This idea was taken from a past thread on fan delete from this frorum. Thanks for the idea guys!!  because of removing this fan in the bumper area, i can use the 3.5 inch thick heat exchanger instead of just the 2 inch thick one.   Fan delete reference is here.  http://m42club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7359 (http://m42club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7359)

The whole reason this was done, is to get rid of the electric fan in the front of the condenser.  doing this freed up about 3 inches of depth, between the bumper and the condenser.  That brings me to the next order

I ordered all of the supplies needed to set up my air to water inter cooler system.  This included the huge 26x7x3.5 inch 2 row heat exchanger, all hoses lines, clamps, fittings, water pump, harness and water pump mounting bracket.

All parts should be here by the end of next week and i will convert the fan.  After that i will start to figure out the mounting of the massive heat exchanger.

For those interested i went with http://www.frozenboost.com for all of the a2w setup.  I have reviewed the crap out of them and i could not find a real life bad review about them. Everyone pushed their products to the limits with success.  You cannot beat the price for the quality you actually receive.  Here is the heat exchanger i purchased.

Heat Exchanger Link (http://www.frozenboost.com/product_info.php?cPath=217&products_id=1026&osCsid=a27483b9fa5f7b2119254342e113b209)

The After-cooler core will be custom built into the custom air-box that is being made for the setup. Measurements will be taken on Sunday for the setup.
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: wazzu70 on December 05, 2011, 08:06:02 PM
Interesting. What car is the kit from?

A lysholm charger of that size is about perfect for these engines. Much better than the roots charger that comes with the DASC.
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 05, 2011, 08:09:34 PM
Well after review it looks as though it may be a 1.2 litre.....not 100% sure  but pretty sure. If it is a 1.2 litre, i looked at the compressor map and it should blow me 15psi hopefully at about 11,000 rpm blower speed so i should be good. i guess i will find out. If I am correct a 4 inch pulley should do what i need.  sucks i will have to pay 85$ everytime i need to try and hit the right psi.

The kit is a whipplecharger pt cruiser kit for the 2.4 litre. it pushed 7-8 psi on their setup.  compressor was made by lysholm back then.

Quote from: wazzu70;108660
A lysholm charger of that size is about perfect for these engines. Much better than the roots charger that comes with the DASC.

I agree. I am no fan of a roots style blower.  i almost bought a brand new dasc kit about 2 years back when Jim ran into a few more superchargers for his kits and produced about 4 more.

Wazzu70, you are local. Maybe you will have to check it out sometime when i get it going, or in the car.


For those interested, i am in this at $1075 to date.   that includes compressor kit, full setup for a2w intercooler, tuning hardware, and fan conversion.  last item to build is the airbox with built in aftercooler.
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bflan2001 on December 05, 2011, 11:11:51 PM
where did you buy the parts?
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 05, 2011, 11:23:25 PM
twinscrew kit kind of locally, for dirt cheap. a2w setup parts from frozenboost.com fan delete setup from pelicanparts.com ford mustang 42lb injectors from injectorconnection.com  Ostrich 2.0 emulator from Moates.com  Intake box is going to be a custom job.

My mistake, when i said 1075 i was mistaken. i forgot about the Brand new injectors i bought today for 50$ a piece, so add 200$  so really $1275 so far.
I did not want used injectors.
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 07, 2011, 08:17:58 AM
So I received all of the parts yesterday for the Fan delete mod.  And here it is!

Removed the clutched fan, and shroud. Replace the fan switch with a colder switch allowing the fan to come on earlier, compensating for the loss of the mechanical fan. Installed new Electric puller fan/shroud on the engine side of the radiator. Removed the aux fan from the bumper side of the radiator/condenser.   Works amazing.  I forgot a picture of the old setup with the shroud in place still.

Before

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After Fan delete Mod

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After fan delete Mod

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/Fandeletemod3.jpg)

in the end, i deleted 2 fans and now have 1. Less work the motor has to do, spinning that manual fan as well.
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 09, 2011, 03:26:03 PM
Intercooler system has arrived!

OMG, all i have to say, is that the heat exchangers from Frozenboost.com are absolutely a tank. This thing is so strong. The end caps are made of 1/4 inch aluminum as well as the mounting tabs.  Very heavy i must say, but it feels as though you could toss it off a building and it would survive. Now i know why people can push these things past 50psi with no problems.  For those on the edge about the "cheap Chinese" quality  think no more. This stuff is top notch.

Here are some pictures of me messing around with the mounting options.  I also removed the AC condenser and the condenser fan along with all of the air routing plastic pieces that are associated. Removing all this was definitely more weight than the heat exchanger i am putting in.

I will be mounting the heat exchanger to the Bumper core using a 2x2 inch aluminum angle piece. I will be picking up the existing holes in the bumper core that currently are used to holt the bumper skin on with plastic rivets, to mount the angle.  i will be adding approximately 6 more mounting tabs to the top of the heat exchanger, for added mounting surface and support.  The mounting tabs are a thick 1/4 inch aluminum already, but i will not be utilizing the bottom tabs. I just want to make sure i get this thing on there strong, since it is pretty heavy.  There is endless amounts of room to mount anything i want in there. I could put the largest air to air intercooler in there if i was going that route!

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All of the crap that came out of the BMW
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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 09, 2011, 03:26:34 PM
This first picture is the core just sitting on the bumper lip.  Just to get a feel of the look. It will be perfectly centered when it is complete.

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(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/1208011604.jpg)

Circled in red are the original bumper core mounting holes for the bumper skin. I will be using these existing holes for the angle mounting.

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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 09, 2011, 03:27:10 PM
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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: BBDirtbiking on December 12, 2011, 11:34:24 AM
Quote from: bbarnumboy;108661
Wazzu70, you are local. Maybe you will have to check it out sometime when i get it going, or in the car.


I see both of you are in this part of the country! I would love to see/hear/feel how this supercharger pairs with a M42, I would love to Supercharge my E30 at some point in time.

Sorry for the OT following this, I will remove if requested by OP:

Wazzu70 are you a current student? I am attending WSU right now, CE... We have a local BMW group that often gets together to talk/eat/gawk/photograph with one another... Our pro photographer just graduated on Saturday so he will be leaving us in a couple months although his parents live here, I got some great photos from him though!!

Both of you, Wazzu70 and bbarnumboy should join this local club: NWBMWClub.com; it covers WA/OR/ID/MT. Basically a great group of guys that are always interested in awesome projects such as the OP!
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 14, 2011, 07:52:49 PM
Extra Tabs for the intercooler have been made and welded on. I may be making additional arm style brackets to support the bottom before installation.

Added 6 extra Tabs

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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bmwconnect on December 14, 2011, 10:00:08 PM
looking really good martin :)
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 15, 2011, 12:33:05 AM
Thanks Barrie.  A project long in the making.  for those that have not seen i have made this thread on my crank pulley setup.

http://m42club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14362
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 17, 2011, 08:26:07 PM
Completed the installation of the heat exchanger for the intercooler system. This was surprisingly simple to do. The spacing is so perfect. If i didn't know any better i would say this heat exchanger was perfectly built for the E36.

 Here's some more eye candy of the mounting process of the heat exchanger.

Next up is to get the pump mounted and plumbed up.  On a side note, the supercharger  i got just passed with an A+ when being tested. I wanted to make sure everything was safe and sound since i got it for a steal!


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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 17, 2011, 08:27:20 PM
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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 17, 2011, 11:33:56 PM
Here is a picture of the Brand new 42 LB (440 cc) Mustang Injectors. Also in the picture is the Ostrich 2.0 for tuning the stock DME

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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: nickmpower on December 21, 2011, 04:55:36 PM
I have ostrich on my car with a dasc
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on December 22, 2011, 07:59:42 AM
Very cool. I am interested in knowing how well that is working.
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on January 05, 2012, 05:09:19 PM
Well i have been gone for 2 weeks on a road trip. I am back now and things are back on track with the project. I have received the new supercharger pulley and belt tensioner in the mail.  I am still waiting for the custom crank pulley to be finished.  Here are some pictures.  The reason for the new stuff is because i have decided to go with a 6 rib belt instead of the crappy 4 rib that came with the supercharger.

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/tensioner.jpg)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/pulley3.jpg)

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(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/pulley.jpg)
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: enildeR on January 06, 2012, 02:21:06 PM
is the new crank pully going to have a rubber part? the stock one prevents the crank from experiencing heavy vibration from accessories. I imagine having a SC would increase vibration in the belt system when getting on/off throttle.
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on January 09, 2012, 01:10:30 AM
The Vibration dampener is stock. The stock piece consists of 2 parts bolted together. i am only making a new version of the part that bolts to the dampener.  So in the end i will be using the stock vibration dampener.
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: enildeR on January 09, 2012, 08:04:52 AM
Yeah, I was under the car this weekend doing to the fan delete, and saw the crank pully. I forgot it was two pieces.

So was the crank pully custom, or did you find one from another engine/car that needed a bit of machining?

I've been eyeing the whipple superchargers. The last time I looked into it, Whipple had not put out the small 100AX, and said that it would be about a year till it would be released. They should be selling it by now.

I would probably need to do the same about the belt driving the SC, as you are doing now.
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on January 09, 2012, 08:13:38 AM
the 100AX is available from them for sure. I have spoke with them about it a few weeks back.

It is 100% custom. I had a company duplicate the pulley 100% and add a 6 rib row to the end of that piece. so the pulley that separates from the dampener will now have 3 belt rows instead of just 2.

I made this thread when i started the process of the pulley creation

http://m42club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14362
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on January 13, 2012, 02:52:06 PM
I hate waiting for components, when doing a build.....probably another couple weeks till i get that crank pulley back, then the air box and supercharger mounting can be completed.  I don't know exactly the positioning i will be needing until that pulley is installed.
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on January 25, 2012, 11:02:47 AM
Well since i have been waiting for the new pulley to come in, I decided to lower the car. what do you think?

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/Lowering1.jpg)

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/Lowering2.jpg)
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: E36-italia on January 27, 2012, 04:04:47 PM
looks like my daily.. but mine has no shocks anymore :(
low+black steelies = bit ghetto but i like it.

guess there are no "sleeping policemen" on your roads ;)
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on January 30, 2012, 12:30:39 PM
Custom Pulley was just shipped out to me today. I should see it in 2 days, where i can install it and then the final measurements can be taken!
Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on February 01, 2012, 05:24:53 PM
finally the custom made pulley has arrived. Its amazing. Craftsmanship is top notch. Made of aluminum and anodized black. The project is back in full force. Now it is time to finish the airbox

(http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d177/bbarnumboy/IMG_20120201_144537.jpg)

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Title: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on February 13, 2012, 09:10:13 AM
Finally got around to installing the Crank Pulley. Here are some pictures of the install. Put brand new belts on as well.

Got the final measurements taken to make the mock up air-box design.

Also replace the Rear trailing arm bushings. I could not  handle the clunking anymore!

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Finally removed the Fan clutch

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Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on March 12, 2013, 09:29:19 AM
I told you this would be a slow build. I decided to wire up the relay etc for the A2W pump. I also measured out some more aluminum angle stock and mounted the pump to the piece of angle. next I need to mount the pump into place on the car.

They make these fancy little fuse taps that i have never seen before. It is a housing that goes into place of a fuse in the fuse box. The bottom fuse is for the original item intended and the top one is used for the item you are wiring up. I do not recommend these for anything that draws very much current. I would never use them for anything more than an ignition trigger wire or for gauges or something very low voltage.  Otherwise you will be pulling more than that fuse position was designed for.

This fuse thingymabob came in very handy for me because I just used it for an ignition power source to trigger my relay. This pump will be running 100% of the time that the ignition is turned on. The install was very clean and all tucked away into the original fuse box. I ran the wires to the pump up front by following the harness for the fog lights and the horn. I drilled a few very small holes, just big enough for my wire out the back of the fuse box. Best part is I did not have to screw the relay down anywhere etc and it is very easy to reposition if needed.

Water Pump Mounted to Angle

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Fancy little fuse tap, no wires were spliced or vampire bitten in the making of this,  Excellent

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Relay tucked away neatly in the fuse box and the lid still fits on perfectly!

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Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on March 19, 2013, 09:52:42 AM
Finished mounting the pump to a completely new bracket, even though it looks the same.  Found a great spot to hold the pump into place with 2 M10 bolts. Finished running the wiring for the pump so that it is hidden away. Hooked up the hose from the pump to the heat exchanger. I will hook up the other lines when it is ready to hook up to the intercooler manifold.

All in all I am very happy with the location i found and how perfectly everything fit into place.

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Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on March 26, 2013, 11:55:50 AM
I plan to go on the Leavenworth German car cruise on June 15th, so this will be my target to finish the car. I am going to hammer out a mock up of the air/mounting box this coming Saturday.
Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on April 04, 2013, 01:25:53 PM
Tons of work being done on this project. I have completed the pulley system for the supercharger snout. The idler is held on with a bunch of washers for mock up that need to be replaced by a spacer.  The custom pulley was finally completed to mount on to the spring tensioner and it turned out nicely. We made it out of Delrin so we will see how long it lasts :-)

Made the custom mounting bracket modifications to fit the snout and mount to the car for strength.

The Actual supercharger mounting brackets will be back from the water jet cutter tonight. I will fit the compressor on for a mock fit along with a mock fit airbox for fitment.

I have a custom ordered a2w intercooler cartridge coming next week from bellintercoolers.com

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Cartridge will have no air ports so i can make my own.

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Hopefully i can post pictures of the compressor mounted in the engine bay tonight.
Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: wazzu70 on April 04, 2013, 02:31:01 PM
Looking good!!
Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on April 06, 2013, 05:11:25 PM
Well I ordered the new snout for the supercharger in a shorter length since this one is way too long. Whipple confirmed that I do have a true Lysholm 1200AX not a Whipple since Whipple and Lysholm merged back in the day. This one is an older one and for sure a Lysholm with a Whipple badge.

Got the mock up bracket to test out supercharger positioning and it is off by about an inch or so in more than one direction. More pictures after we get the test bracket remade for actual correct fitment.



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Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on April 10, 2013, 09:30:39 PM
Mock up bracket #2 is a success. Needs about a 5 degree tilt away from the engine to make the compressor straight up and down. Needs to come forward 11/16" to align the pulleys. The new Whipple 3 5/16" snout came in today to change out the old 8" one. Coming together quickly!

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Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: Damatheus on July 28, 2013, 11:23:44 AM
Any updates on this project? I've got the same engine from a 94 that is going into a 1977  E21 and I plan on doing pretty much this exact build.
Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on July 28, 2013, 12:36:45 PM
Not at the moment. Hopefully soon.
Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: Damatheus on July 28, 2013, 06:17:24 PM
But you seem so close to being done! Arg the suspense!

What sort of power number are you hoping to achieve with this setup?
Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on July 28, 2013, 06:27:25 PM
250whp at about 15psi is the goal
Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bbarnumboy on July 28, 2013, 06:28:14 PM
Waiting on machine shop  pieces and welding to be done etc. On the actual airbox and mounts.
Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: bmwman91 on July 30, 2013, 11:18:52 AM
Awesome! I have always wanted to put a blower on mine. The sound alone is just so cool, and of course the instant-on power!
Title: Re: Martins Twin Screw Supercharger Build
Post by: fumstoo on August 06, 2013, 12:10:53 PM
^^^ I love the sound superchargers make and always get confused when people complain about the whining noise. I would love to have a supercharged m42 as a daily :)