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DISCUSSION => Engine + Driveline => Topic started by: Zoso on September 15, 2006, 01:38:38 PM

Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: Zoso on September 15, 2006, 01:38:38 PM
I don't have any air/imact tools and the block of wood/breaker bar/starter motor technique is a bit "shadetree" for my liking.

(from bp's wepage)
(http://www.esatclear.ie/~bpurcell/pulleyboltout.jpg)
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: sheepdog on September 15, 2006, 11:46:21 PM
I took some angle iron (chunk of bed frame), cut a round slice out and drilled it for 2 crank bolts, my brother held that and I used a 2 foot breaker bar.

I am no fan of some of the shadier methods I have seen and this allows you to tighten as much as needed.
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: bmwman91 on September 16, 2006, 12:10:59 AM
http://www.m42club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1188

OMGF!!!11 use teh search function n00b

Good luck.  it is a bitch.  Pay the shipping and you can borrow my tool lol.
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: Febi Guibo on September 16, 2006, 07:39:26 AM
(http://www.sirtools.com/bmwsirs-078.jpg)

the M42 one is like $48 ...I say, we buy it, and rent it to our loyal membership as an income-producer for the m42club... who's with me?!

(denis, you need these... tell your mom they're like, giant barbeque tongs or something)
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: ak96ss on September 16, 2006, 08:36:09 AM
The Sir Tools website is perhaps the LEAST user-friendly page I have seen in a looong time. But, if that $48 is correct, I may just buy one anyway. Did you call them to get that price?
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: Febi Guibo on September 16, 2006, 11:21:26 AM
my bad.. for sale pages here:

http://www.gprparts.com/brands/sirtools/bmw.asp
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: ak96ss on September 16, 2006, 12:15:13 PM
Cool, thanks - BavAuto has it as well for the same price, and cheaper shipping to us on the right coast.
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: dude8383 on September 16, 2006, 02:39:13 PM
Quote from: ak96ss
Cool, thanks - BavAuto has it as well for the same price, and cheaper shipping to us on the right coast.


is this on their website?
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: dude8383 on September 16, 2006, 02:39:56 PM
Quote from: Febi Guibo
(http://www.sirtools.com/bmwsirs-078.jpg)

the M42 one is like $48 ...I say, we buy it, and rent it to our loyal membership as an income-producer for the m42club... who's with me?!

(denis, you need these... tell your mom they're like, giant barbeque tongs or something)


LOL, yeh i do need one of these. but how is that tool going to help to get the crank bolt off?
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: ak96ss on September 16, 2006, 03:00:23 PM
Yes, it is on their website.

This helps by enabling you to hold the crank in place while you remove the bolt...  :)
Title: Another way.
Post by: D. Clay on September 16, 2006, 04:11:33 PM
If that  breaker bar - starter motor and 2X4 is too shadetree for you, how about the SirTools piece. The instructions say that it rests on the frame rail too.
In an infinite universe, there is always another way!
With the engine at TDC a hole in the flywheel lines up with a hole in the block. It's visible if you're standing on the left side of the engine compartment. Of course there's a special BMW tool for this but a bolt works too.
http://www.sirtools.com/bmw_tools.htm (http://www.sirtools.com/bmw_tools.htm)
Click the picture in the above link - it's the pin at bottom center. For me the 2X4 on the frame rail/starter motor is the way to go.  It's what we call the "quick and dirty"  here.
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: romkasponka on September 17, 2006, 02:24:55 PM
you do not need any tool, just fit bolt in flywheel through hole in block (close to part #7 http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AF91&mospid=47256&btnr=11_1960&hg=11&fg=10 (http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AF91&mospid=47256&btnr=11_1960&hg=11&fg=10) ).
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: sheepdog on September 17, 2006, 07:16:45 PM
Quote from: romkasponka
you do not need any tool, just fit bolt in flywheel through hole in block (close to part #7 http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AF91&mospid=47256&btnr=11_1960&hg=11&fg=10 (http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?model=AF91&mospid=47256&btnr=11_1960&hg=11&fg=10) ).
That could be a big mistake if the bolt shears, and at 250 ft. pounds of torque, it very well could.

That was designed to find TDC of #1 cylinder, not hold the crank. If it were, BMW would not sell a tool for this purpose.
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: romkasponka on September 18, 2006, 01:43:28 AM
you can make same math and you will see what torque is not so big on bolt and after that you will see only litle bent bolt, but it'is far inough to shear it. Of course you can use 12,9 calass bolt..
Title: How did you remove your crank shaft bolt?
Post by: sheepdog on September 18, 2006, 12:56:05 PM
Quote from: romkasponka
you can make same math and you will see what torque is not so big on bolt and after that you will see only litle bent bolt, but it'is far inough to shear it. Of course you can use 12,9 calass bolt..

With a high quality bolt, you may get away with it, especially if the crank bolt was not properly torqued.

However, you are playing with fire.