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DISCUSSION => General Topics => Topic started by: Genjinn on January 13, 2010, 10:41:52 AM
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If you were able to freakishly optain 5 to 6k dollars what would you do to your M42 e36s and this is a to the all the e36s in peticular cause am that person that just inherited that sooo what the hell do i do
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Lol wow 16 reviews and no responds! That says a lot right there that no one knows what to do? Come guys help meeee
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Depends on how freakishly I obtained the cash. I'd go get a decent Dakar Yellow M3. It's the best e36, hands down.
Or maybe buy me a nice CD & let the bank pay me for a change.
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I'd buy myself a Volvo lip and black out the kidneys. The rest of the money I'd spend on ostrich boots, Ritz bits with cheese, taco truck burritos, and hookers.
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lol hahah come on guys am serious what would you do if you had 6k to work with to mod your m42s peas!
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If I were hell bent on spending the money,
1. Downing Atlanta Supercharger, still have some change for maintenance.
2. or a Metric Mechanic engine, haven't looked at their site in a while but they
used to have some drool inducing stuff in that price range.
If I were really in a position where I hadn't already done either of those things what I'd really do is take care of any maintenance/reliability issues I had, replace any worn rubber and put the rest into savings. That would be your elders talking though. Not as much fun but it is really kind of crazy to put a lot of money into what is probably a sub $3000 car.
lol hahah come on guys am serious what would you do if you had 6k to work with to mod your m42s peas!
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I'd buy myself a Volvo lip and black out the kidneys. The rest of the money I'd spend on ostrich boots, Ritz bits with cheese, taco truck burritos, and hookers.
Ahahaha hahhh ahhahahahaha!
That's the morning off to a good start!
Seriously, buy the M3 & just keep the 318 stock. That way you can postpone any maintenance...you'll always have a spare. The S52 in the M3 is just a hopped up M52...that's good for reliability & keeps maintenance costs down. Bad for performance, but I'll go with reliability any day. Otherwise I'd be thrashing a Lancia Scorpion, Pug 505, or a Alfa GTV6.
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lol hahah come on guys am serious what would you do if you had 6k to work with to mod your m42s peas!
Ok, seriously, I would probably replace every single rubber bushing and mount, fix dents and get a paint job, wheels/tires, and replace all the misc missing parts on the damn car (ie e-brake console, antenna, lip, exhaust bracket, power steering)
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DASC and maintenance.
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sorry for my ignorance but what is a DASC am sorry i never knew
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Downing Atlanta SuperCharger (http://downingatlanta.com/downingatlanta/da_superchargers_info_new.htm). The holy grail of easy power for our car...200+hp for an afternoon of work. They claim no kit for the e30, but GRM showed (http://grassrootsmotorsports.com/project-cars/1991-bmw-318is/) that it can be done. $4500 IIRC.
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I would buy an e30
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I would buy an e30
+1 :D and put the rest in metric mechenics hand and let them do as they wish. id want a useable first gear. solid lifters insanely radical cams itb's stand alone ecu and 8600rpm redline. ok that would be over $6k but he we are talking out of our asses anyways. may as well do it u right. if money were no limit id have a s42 in it :cool:
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+1 :D and put the rest in metric mechenics hand and let them do as they wish. id want a useable first gear. solid lifters insanely radical cams itb's stand alone ecu and 8600rpm redline. ok that would be over $6k but he we are talking out of our asses anyways. may as well do it u right. if money were no limit id have a s42 in it :cool:
Hell ya, e30 FTW. MM engines are the tits!!
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Hell ya, e30 FTW. MM engines are the tits!!
Couldn't have said it better myself, at the risk of starting a flame war. Don't get me wrong, I like the e36. Nice e30s make me spend money!
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DASC units are the biggest waste of money ever. 60hp for 4g's is stupid. You can make 60hp with the following
ITB's (S52 ITB's gor for a few hundred on ebay)
323i Euro Flywheel ($300-$400 ish from the dealer)
Cams (regrinds are roughly $250 from drcamshafts in Auburn, Ca) (he did mine)
MarkD, JimC or Superchip ($200-$300)
Total approx $1200)
and if you get a wild hair up your ass....a turbo kit can be put together for around 1G
or more if you want to change the internals
Or the S50 or S52 swap.
Fuck DASC
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DASC units are the biggest waste of money ever. 60hp for 4g's is stupid. You can make 60hp with the following
ITB's (S52 ITB's gor for a few hundred on ebay)
323i Euro Flywheel ($300-$400 ish from the dealer)
Cams (regrinds are roughly $250 from drcamshafts in Auburn, Ca) (he did mine)
MarkD, JimC or Superchip ($200-$300)
Total approx $1200)
and if you get a wild hair up your ass....a turbo kit can be put together for around 1G
or more if you want to change the internals
Or the S50 or S52 swap.
Fuck DASC
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Finally someone says it like it is!
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well spoken ill will do the following and i feel a wild hair growing so what are good internal to go with?
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well spoken ill will do the following and i feel a wild hair growing so what are good internal to go with?
Spoon
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DASC units are the biggest waste of money ever. 60hp for 4g's is stupid. You can make 60hp with the following
ITB's (S52 ITB's gor for a few hundred on ebay)
323i Euro Flywheel ($300-$400 ish from the dealer)
Cams (regrinds are roughly $250 from drcamshafts in Auburn, Ca) (he did mine)
MarkD, JimC or Superchip ($200-$300)
Total approx $1200)
and if you get a wild hair up your ass....a turbo kit can be put together for around 1G
or more if you want to change the internals
Or the S50 or S52 swap.
Fuck DASC
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i get my cam work done by delta. last pair i had done was $250 a stick +2 cams=$500. i had them in my hands in under a month too.
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I'm not saying this because I have a DASC but this is a little off the mark.
The DASC is a very simple way to get significantly more HP and keep gas mileage high.
If I had mad fabrication skills and didn't care about mileage, personally I'd go for an LSx transplant. Everything else, turbos, other BMW 6 swaps, etc, fit somewhere between those marks.
Finally someone says it like it is!
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well spoken ill will do the following and i feel a wild hair growing so what are good internal to go with?
Stock if you are going simple with low boost. If not VAC has some good low comp pistons/rods. But they are a bit pricey.
Spoon
LMAO
i get my cam work done by delta. last pair i had done was $250 a stick +2 cams=$500. i had them in my hands in under a month too.
John took care of me and I have a sweet setup. He can do what ever you want, and like I said, it was roughly $250. Just remember shipping to and from. So budget a little more.
http://www.drcamshafts.com/ (http://www.drcamshafts.com/)
I'm not saying this because I have a DASC but this is a little off the mark.
The DASC is a very simple way to get significantly more HP and keep gas mileage high.
If I had mad fabrication skills and didn't care about mileage, personally I'd go for an LSx transplant. Everything else, turbos, other BMW 6 swaps, etc, fit somewhere between those marks.
LSX throws balance out the window though. I have damn good mileage with my stroker on city and highway roads. 27-38 depending on my foot that day. The track is another story.....
In all seriousness, the DASC is at the bottom of bang for the buck list IMO.
However, if they want to send me a unit for testing in order to change my mind, i'm all for it. A blown stroker could easily crank out 300hp.
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Ok so what kinda of cam set-up should i run with cause i plan on running threw every step you given me dvmotor cause it seem like a solid ideal and it promotes engine strengthening O and vac has a stage 2 m42 performance head for like 1.5k so is that a good ideal to get along with the set-up given plus is that part a plug and play item?
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Overnight parts from Japan ... tune the NOS timer a bit, I could run 9s.
/Fast and Furious reference
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Overnight parts from Japan ... tune the NOS timer a bit, I could run 9s.
/Fast and Furious reference
You're bound to top off at 140 MPH with those mods. You'll need two bottles...the big ones, and hope you don't blow a fucking weld on your intake or a floor pan.
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Ok so what kinda of cam set-up should i run with cause i plan on running threw every step you given me dvmotor cause it seem like a solid ideal and it promotes engine strengthening O and vac has a stage 2 m42 performance head for like 1.5k so is that a good ideal to get along with the set-up given plus is that part a plug and play item?
This is hard to read, but here are my cam specs. And build your own head if you have the mechanical aptitude. You will save money and have fun.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/dvmotorsports/004-7.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v260/dvmotorsports/005-6.jpg)
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sorry but i dont have the aptitude which is were am cursed of not knowing...so with that said....should I go with the stage 2 cause am mechanically declined....sorry
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Stage 2 what? Show me some specs please.
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the stage 2 performance head from VACMotorsports just go to the site it will show stages 1 thru 3...sorry thought you knew what i was talkin about
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Speaking of cams, check out deltacam.com (out of WA) ... lightning fast turnaround, and last I heard I think it was like 200-250 shipped to regrind a couple.
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$250 a stick was what i paid for my 286's from delta. i had them in under a month. i think from the time i shipped them to the time they was on my porch was 15 days.
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so whats a good cam degree cause i dont wont to have that big v-8 gurgle sound i kinda like that smooth rumble
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Anyone have a dyno sheet for these mods? I've always read that there isn't much power to be gained from anything but larger displacement or FI?
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I'd start with ground work. Replace every little rubber piece including tires on some new wheels. Then throw some Bilsteins with what ever springs you like with them. Then a x-brace and some nice swaybars.
After all that I'd move on to the whole drive train. Order a gasket kit for the engine. Replace any rubber hoses that are cracked and/or old. Then start with timing chain and stuff.
When the engine is good and tight, A light weight flywheel and new clutch would go in. A short shifter kit and a lsd would finish it up.
Finally with what ever $$$ is left Id install a DASC and not worry about a thing.
Cheers.
Im not a fan of body work cause one day I would be walking back to my car and see a ding or dent and my head would explode. Its not a pretty site when something from the highway nails my car. Im not a horrible driver, thats just my luck. Expecially after getting it back from the body shop.
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DASC is a stupid amount of money for the gains. plus to take full adantage of that blower your gonna need several thousand dollars MORE worth of supporting mods. whats more air without more fuel and ignition work gonna do? $4000+ for 200hp? no thank you.
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Anyone have a dyno sheet for these mods? I've always read that there isn't much power to be gained from anything but larger displacement or FI?
Between a chip, ITB's Cams, FW and exhaust, you can be where the DASC puts you for half the price.
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i havnt had mine on the rollers yet but with cams chip injectors head work and high fuel presure im guessing im somewhere around 160-170.
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Do you have a dyno sheet? I think there are a lot of people that would be interested in that.
Between a chip, ITB's Cams, FW and exhaust, you can be where the DASC puts you for half the price.
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Do you have a dyno sheet? I think there are a lot of people that would be interested in that.
I do not. The local club here had a dyno day last weekend but I couldn't make it. My ITB's are still in transit anyhow. So it would be greatly inaccurate.
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(S52 ITB's gor for a few hundred on ebay)
ok arnt the s52 itbs for 6 cylinder engine? how do we make that work?
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o and that was from dvmotorsport sorry for got to quote him.
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Chop off two holes. I'll be doing this soon so i'll document it unless it's been done.
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I'd buy a Metric Mechanic (http://www.metricmechanic.com/prices/pricing-engines.php)M42 HiFlow ST Sport motor for $6,500.00 and die happy. Ask Febi how much he likes his MM motor (granted, he's got the Rally 2100 as opposed to the HiFlow ST Sport).
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s52
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They S52 swap is overplayed and kills balance. Might as well build a very well setup turbo motor. And you get to keep that M42 love.
Seriously, if you want to swap, just wait until the upcoming S54 PnP harness is done.
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S42
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^what he said